Clinging to their bibles and guns, etc. Also incredibly stupid comments which had serious negative effects on each vote-wise.

The differences? Neither made insulting us civilians a daily sport and neither comment was directed at an individual. Most importantly, neither was president when those inexcusable comments were made. I can't think of a time Obama stooped to the level Trump operates at on a near-daily basis.

Hooda, you gotta help me out man. You know that scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence tells the general about executing the Arab? Lawrence was clearly disturbed, the general said that stuff happens in war disagreeable as it may be and Lawrence says that's not the problem, I enjoyed it. Well, I'm feeling disgusted and dirty having dipped my toe so far into the frothing cesspool of a Soapbox thread and all the crazed regular mofos hereabouts, and yet I, too, seem to be enjoying it. Sick. Maybe getting back now to watch my Seahawks come back to beat the dreaded 48ers in the second half will pull me out of this hellhole of guys beating their heads against walls everywhere you turn.